The Entryway to God is Love: A Heart-Wrenching Mod Takeover

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welcome in to control alt redeem resetting the culture redeeming the space we are doing a little bit of a mod takeover and so i've got my two primary mods with me today we've got five looses five lights and we have i'm watching you people who also does stream welcome in i am so excited to have both of you here today wow god bless you

I'm the quiet one here, by the way.

That's okay. That's okay. We will need to have answers from you at some point. So you don't have to have long, lengthy, flowing stories. We're not expecting that. One of the things, though, is that we do want insights from mods because mods are different than streamers. And I'm watching. I know you do both. But you are everywhere, all over the place. And so you're going to have some great insights, hopefully, to share with people today. So I think, Luce, as you've been... uh one of my mods for i don't know is it a couple years now how did you uh get introduced to twitch and uh just kind of like who was the first person that you were modding for um well let's see i got into twitch because my middle daughter was actually going to stream for the first time and as a mom i have three kids

As a mom of what he called of, I wanted to support her. Plus, I kind of want to keep an eye on her. So I wanted to make sure that, you know, everything was going well. So she didn't even know I was going to actually follow her or actually appear. But I had to follow her friend first in order to find her because I wasn't very tech savvy with this Twitch stuff. so um she only streamed for a couple of times but every time she was uh there i was there um then i started following since i did follow her friends i kind of like was um doing you know hanging around there and stuff but i didn't feel comfortable because of the language and stuff like that so i kind of wanted to find other twitch streamers Um, at the time, I think they didn't even have the tag of a Christian or Christ or anything like that three years ago. Um, but I did find like a church, but they had sort of like a meditative, um, warning thing. And I'm like, uh, this isn't for me. So basically the first person who streamer Christian streamer that I did find was, um, um, Peter Beowulf from him. I, I, uh, he raided into tsunami. Papa Tsunami now. And Kishu popped into the Bearded Beowulf one. And that's how I met a few people. And that's how it carried on. As far as the first sword that I got as a mod, that would be Chovy. He was sorting everybody up because he wanted everybody to play with... the avatars and you can only play with the avatars if you had a sword so so he basically gave swords you know gave time for the person to be there and after a while he just gave swords to everybody you know, as long as he could actually, you know, help out or whatever. And he basically was like, this is just a play with the avatars, you know, like no banning, no stuff like that. And that's how you kind of like, it was pretty good because it was like how you wet your feet in, you know. And then you learn how to become a ma little by little and stuff. And, you know, that's basically, you know, how I started.

That's really cool. I didn't know it was Bearded Bay Wolf was the first Christian you found. Bearded Bay Wolf will be on the podcast, I think, the end of the month. He'll be on the podcast. So that's pretty cool. I love the interconnectedness of people and the names. Oh, yeah, Papa Tsunami, know him and others. And yet Chovy. I like to say whenever Chovy is in my chat and we shout him out, if you're not watching Chovy, what are you doing with your life? That's just what I say. I don't say that about anybody else, but I just say that with Chovy. What a great guy. So full of Christ's love for everybody. That does not surprise me that he's just like, everybody gets a sword. You get a sword and you get a sword and just bless everybody he can. uh the guy's just so full of love so that's that's really cool uh thinking through that and i love the i got on to make sure i understood what my kids were up to and what they were doing and i think that's one of those things i'm just going to pause on there a minute um on that that's not really totally related but there might be someone who is like a parent who their kid gives them this podcast to listen to and says mom dad i'm thinking of streaming i want you to understand it better so What were some of the things that you did? So yeah, you went and found a friend and you went on there. So not really the techie stuff, but just like the, what was it you were looking for to check out on behalf of your daughter to make sure that it was a safe place or a place that you could trust her to spend time in?

Well, my daughter is almost like my best friend. So basically, you know, she talks to me about Twitch and about, all the drama that goes on and stuff even prior to this, but, uh, she did a lot of more, um, uh, around COVID time. They did a lot of more discord and a lot of more, uh, Twitch stuff and stuff like that. So I kind of like learned from her. That's why she's my tech tech savvy person here. Um, and, um, but basically it was just, you know, just to see what it was like, um, because, you know, like to experience it, you know, her being and the front lines type thing.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think one of the things that a lot of parents don't know is where their kids are and what things are. And so there's sometimes just the opinion or the attitude of, no, don't go do that. I've heard bad things without actually going and exploring it on your own. Or no, that's, you know, don't go spend their social media. That's a waste of time. And it's like, Twitch is not the same as any other space like that. Basically, I think this might sound silly, but it might make sense, but when they used to have the local television station that you could go into, and I can't remember what the name was for it, but it was just like local TV that anybody could show up and go on TV for a couple hours, and it was just in your local area. It didn't get broadcast. It wasn't even a PBS. It was below that level of stuff that people would do. It's like, yeah, you had to have... you know connection and people would do it so it's like you're going live and someone's going to watch you and yeah i know internet you can get anywhere but it's more of that vibe of you can go on you can do this public access that's what it was public access tv is is what some of it kind of reminds me of that idea of it so Very cool. Thank you. I'm watching. How did you get started in Twitch? What was your connection to coming on to Twitch? And did you mod first or did you stream first before becoming a mod?

When I first came on Twitch, just because somebody I liked on YouTube was always saying he's on Twitch. I was currently in a rehab center and I needed some distraction and I finally did it. But I didn't actually join Twitch until I actually got home. and then i was like oh this is fun and then we learned about raids and i found all these people and they told me about streaming and she kept saying you should stream just know these tips and stream i'm like nah i'm good the long story short around the time i started streaming i was working and i met somebody who when i met her i can't explain it it's like i've known this woman all my life within the first month and we clicked so hard And I lost her the next year, not even a year after I met her. And when I tell y'all, that hit so hard. I needed a distraction. I needed it. I was not coming on for anything altruistic. Looking back, I was probably close to being lukewarm at that point. I was struggling spiritually. I wasn't thinking about being on Twitch to shine my light. I just wanted to play Words on Stream and kill some time so I didn't scream when I wasn't working. And I just needed to not obsess over this woman that I don't think I'll ever see. I just, I will never see her again. So I did that. I lived, I learned, I got a few mods myself and I learned that, you know, modding is a thing and it exists and I get it. I can't do what y'all do. Y'all know everything. And they're like, girl, you're basically just keeping the streamers company. You learn a few commands, you say hi to folks, you're polite. And yes, if we have the band people, we do, but usually they got Commander Root or Sari by. Girl, don't worry about it. Just hang out, ask questions, just make sure people know this person is not alone.

Oh!

that okay so uh somebody that um used to be here she's more on youtube now um but i can't remember her new year's name but it was um the lonely diner i think she was the first person i modded for um because it was hanging out with a little chat buddy and you know we sent stuff i sent raid messages we do goofy stuff we got to do the my trolling thing which is fun you know you pick whatever we pick what it's like being a little brother or sister i get picked with her all day long but you better not ask kick your knee stuff like that you know and and i learned and then I'm not going to get into the reasons or mention any communities, but let's just say looking back, it was a lot my fault. But then some of it was complicated. But I fell out with two different communities for reasons. I'm not blaming. I'm just giving you facts. And in that process, I knew of a few people. One of them was you. um the other one was um north hill live and um north hill live first came to me about being a mod and i'm looking at him like oh gosh now this is serious this is just me offering this is somebody saying come help me do stuff i'm like what sir don't think you understand i know how to change light bulbs and i can make a decent slice of toast otherwise we're gonna mess up the power grid for everybody why you want me to be your mind so long story short you said like you know it's not deep i just you pretty much do what you just said you'll learn as you go along and i do and so i said okay sure past the north side and It's just that. Literally just keeping them company, saying hi, sharing commands. You know, I don't ever have to worry about banning people. Crazy Uncle is on there. Bye, Felicia. Nobody's getting in here. I don't even have to worry about that. then what you offered i was like whoa there's a whole pastor again jesus what's going on but i said you know what i did it before i can do it again maybe help god please okay i can do it And then I did it. And then I'm like, I can do it. Oh, my gosh. Lucis is here. Yeah, I can do this. So long story short, one, it helps to just know it's not as deep as I made it. Two, it helps to know people in the spot. I mean, I was already bought. And that's a good thing. If you got great mods, it makes you want to be a mod because you're like, I see how y'all do it. And though y'all know techie things that make my head flip, you also are very... sociable you're hospitable you bring a lightness you make people want to come in even when they come in and being an absolute jerk let's be honest y'all have the most polite ways of saying baby chill you know you find it and i said i can do this with help so with you i had ukulele and you and five loses i said i know them oh oh oh and here i am

That's awesome.

There was another question I forgot.

It was it was just kind of because I did not know entirely if you modded first or if you streamed first. It sounds like you streamed first and modding came along later after you were doing it. But just to just to go back a little bit. So you you were like this is like I love the intersection of where do people get connected? um so you're you're in a rehab center and you watch someone on youtube and they invite you over so you go explore that and then you decide when you get home to go and do that and you said you started finding uh different spaces and and finding time that you could spend in there and killing time so you said words on uh stream was one of those things was was it words on stream what the other person on youtube was doing or was it something else that they were doing to begin with

Well, I like anagrams. I didn't even really get concept with it. I've always liked when I would be on the bus and on the trains and I had a long ride. I would look at those advertisements with those long words like progenitorial boxer. I don't know, anti-disestablishmentarianism, something like that. And I would see how many words I can make out of it. Cause I'd had like an hour and a half, two, three hour out ride. I'm killing time. I find words on stream. I'm like, this is my life in a game.

Oh, heck yeah.

And then I ran into a bunch of people. If you know, you know, they call words nerds. It's a compliment. And we just somehow can rock this game. Now, it took me a couple of years to figure out that when I see all these letters coming together, it's weird. I don't know how it happened, but I can figure out how these words work and I can just make a word and I can't explain to you how I found it. But then I just make words after that. And that's the community I found. And it was so much easier to start streaming, knowing I'm legit just playing words on stream. And I knew they would come and they did. So, yeah.

Oh, very cool, very cool. And I love when, like, I love hanging out with you, but I hate words. I mean, I love words, but I want meaning. I don't care how you spell it. I can't spell it. Like, I'm going to get it wrong. I can't type in any order to even spell things the right way. Like, I still, I have, like, if I'm typing, like, just... uh... hey friend and i i can't spell friend right okay i always like vowels are the worst thing like why do we have vowels that make all kinds of different sounds and i can make every vowel sound anyway i would say the exact same word and replace it with every single vowel we have and still pronounce it the same way vowels are worthless and unless they say their name you know so a e i o u i don't mispronounce and i don't misspell but when they make a sound like a Is A spelled E-H or A-H? Or O-H? Like, what are we doing here? So that's why, no. I love your enthusiasm. I love all of that. But it's not for me. Yeah, friend. You know what? Banana, I might start doing that. F-R-E-N. I love that. Friend. Yeah, see, now you're going to go with F-W-E-N and throw me off again.

Like, this is not helpful.

Like, okay, we're going to get off that subject. I don't need to rant.

I was waiting for it to happen.

I know, I know, I know. But I was trying to be complimentary in a way of saying, I don't fit, but I love when I watch people find their community. You found a community that love the spelling games, and you're always encouraging me along those lines. And I'm like, keep encouraging me. Maybe someday I'll play Words on Stream. Probably not. But... It's in that course of what you've learned and where you've connected with other people that as a mod, you bring things like commands and other things that you've seen, other features that streamers are using because you are out in that realm where... You have words on stream. You have puzzles that are on stream. And then you have all of these other things that you add as a streamer that mods need to know how to operate some of those things. So I appreciate all that.

Awesome.

So what have been some struggles, loses that you have faced? And then I'll come back to I'm watching some struggles you've faced with being a mod on stream. What are some things that. you didn't know or you needed to learn or just communities that changed or how all of that evolved for you as starting in one place and expanding to streaming or modding in other places. What has been that journey like and some struggles that you faced?

Well, first of all, I'm not tech savvy. So mostly what I do is I shout out. And in fact, there's a joke in Popsio's stream that I'm actually the... I'm the shout out bot in training. But mostly I like to say hello to people and I give a whole bunch of shout outs and each like as many people know, each stream has their own has their own real, what do you call, way of doing things. The unique way of doing things and stuff. And you could carry a joke on one stream, but you could, you know, leave it there. And, you know, even though like I'm watching people kind of likes to say, hi stalker. And it was one time that she never showed up in your stream. And then I actually found her in another stream and I say, hi stranger. She's been calling me stalker and I call her stranger. So that joke has been going around. twitch yes and people but it's a little private joke we keep going around and um you know people might think like oh my gosh she's calling her stalker you know like but it's it's a private joke so um as far as um you know like i said every i usually go to small streams because you know they need the the movement of the chat and stuff like if i go to like um a music stream like worship music live and stuff like that. I started there and I just put a whole bunch of emotes, moving emotes, because I've learned that, you know, at least if the chat is moving, then it seems like there's a lot of people there. So another streamer, excuse me, yeah, another streamer, he actually, who was in chat says, why don't you make her a mod? And he's like, well, I don't know. I mean, does she want to be a mod? And I'm like, well... don't know i've never been asked to be a mod you know so then you know he says all right then you're a mod so it kind of gets a little hard when i'm trying to put a whole bunch of emotes and somebody does pop in and then i have to time it because it goes on his like his uh you know, the little picture that pops up with the little face and then it blocks his face. So then I have to time it somewhere in between the music. So that way that doesn't happen. But like I said, it's different techie stuff that each streamer has, you know, and they have their own unique way of doing things. And that's why If ever I get a sword, I say, okay, what is it that you need me to do? Because, you know, as far as tech stuff, I can't do, I could do shout outs. I could wave at people very happily and excitedly. And, you know, say, oh my gosh, you know, my little waving is like, oh my gosh, you're here, you're here, I can't believe you're here. But other than, you know, than that, you know, sometimes I'm watching people who tells me like, oh, shout out so-and-so who's not even a cat. And I'm like, how do you spell that again? And I'm like, does it have an underscore? Does it not have an underscore? I know she's a common one, but some people are using underscore now as opposed to one big word. So I kind of got to be coached every so often to like, what exactly do you mean? What exactly do you need? And that sort of stuff.

Yeah. I love the learning in different communities of what to do. Here's one of those things. Mod is a large category. There's a lot of different kinds of mods in there. And I like to think through when I talk with people who are not in Twitch is what do you do in a church service if someone is there? You have parking lot greeters, right? They will welcome you. Or you have a greeter at the door when people come in. And then you're going to have an usher who's going to point you around to what is this place like and where do you find certain things. And you're going to have a bouncer in the space. Maybe you don't have a person labeled as a bouncer, but you're going to have people who would take on that role if need be or first responders or those kinds of things. So it's like mods can do any of those, and they might have to do all of those. But if you're really good at one thing, like when I was in a church and I had a person that like – If you know StrengthsFinders, Woo is one of the categories that people could be as a strength and it's winning others over. Woo believes that a stranger is just a friend they haven't met yet. And so they will talk to anybody and they'll talk at length. You don't want that person being an usher because they're going to sit there talking to the person for 10 minutes, trying to help them find their seat. And there's people waiting behind it. So you want that person just being the greet brand new people coming in to talk with them, to make sure that they feel at home. So it's like, find your spot as a mod. So you don't need to have all of the things and do everything for every stream. But yeah, that's, that's like, you do have a giftedness. You can use it. And then you, know let the streamer know if well i i don't know how to do that if you can coach me yeah being coachable is a great thing love that luces uh i'm i'm watching what have been some uh difficulties that uh you you have had as being a mod my inadequacy with tech i can't remember patterns different programs changing

and how people do things with Streamlabs, OBS, OBS, Twitch Studio, all the other ones. You see the near breakdown I had just with this one thing. So I had to learn to just find my strengths, and I'm constantly relearning that, leaning on other mods. I mean, yes, I'm here to help, but I can't be a help if I can't be a help. So ask for what you need. just talk to the streamer you're actually streaming for like now you know good and well i'm just here to keep you company why you ask me to do stuff and i'll be like no seriously help me though if you help me and give me some time i'll get it so that yeah

yeah mostly tech mostly tech well that's okay you know it's it's there's also two um you know if you're if you're modding for multiple different people then they might have different expectations i think lucas was alluding to that a little bit and the communities are a little bit different but some of us and and where you mod like you're talking about pastor north like you you could go back and forth between my channel and his channel like we're not on at the same time we don't have necessarily the same community but we have a very similar approach to how we're going to do things so yeah you know there's a definite crossover there of being able to fit in and and be able to be a part of of what's going on Has there been any surprises that you've encountered from being a mod? Something you just didn't expect would end up happening for you from being a mod.

Elaborate a bit.

I mean, you might have known, yeah, I need to help out with chat, but just something happened because of you being a moderator that either someone did for you, someone said to you, or some realization you had of your own personality, your own strength, something that you just discovered in some way or was a blessing to you because you've been modding.

Hmm. I've learned I have a lot more patience than I thought I did. Oh, my gosh. There have been moments where I'm like, I would never want to use the B word because that's. I mean, not technically permanent. You can unban somebody. But bad bots.

I mean, yes, we'd like to give you all these viewers.

Just go to this site. Of course I'm going to get rid of that. But if somebody comes in and they're towing that line between being ultra passionate about a subject and just literally trolling, I don't always know the difference. And if a chat... like if the person who streams is very lenient about things and i'm like i might be viewing this by my view so help me not project god but did they just say this about you and this person's chat and i'm supposed to just you know what breathe let me ask the streamer hold up i will send a message i'll be like look i don't like the b word but this makes me want to bypass tom you know timeouts like do you see this am i am i tripping and they're like no it's it's borderline you're right but look just you know i'm gonna give them a little woosah give them a moment say this is where it comes to you understand it i have explained this two times This is where timeouts happen because I need you to take a moment and chill. If you cannot take this, this may not be the community for you, which I hope it is. But if it isn't, it isn't. I don't want to ban you. I need you to chill. My mods will come behind and do what needs to be done. Chill! And that's why I'm like, I'm so glad I asked because I mean, it takes it takes a bit for me to get mad like that on somebody's behalf when I don't fully understand things. It's happened to the point my body shakes. I feel it. I'm like, I don't even know if this is how I feel as a person or if I'm literally thinking this is their rules. This is how they do things. This is not how we do stuff. But I'm like, let me ask first. me ask and i'm glad every time that i do because at least half the time the stream is like no i hear you and i'm kind of there with you but just don't give it a minute and i'm like oh my god i'm glad i asked so yeah that that that's really really cool in some ways of how

you having to put yourself in the back seat to the streamer is is a hard thing at times if you if you if it's like and i get that there are certain things that i'll get upset about i don't want to hear i don't want to permit but if i'm into someone else and they're okay with it then i need to go by their rule their standard and not impose myself on there that's a really good observation there Lucis, how about for you? Was there anything that you've kind of learned or experienced as being a mod that was kind of surprising or just a surprising event that happened because you were a mod?

Can I just pause real quick, if you don't mind? Yeah. So I see all of your questions. I just came from having a near anxiety moment earlier, and I'm still calming down. I see it. I'm nodding in my head, but I just don't have it in me right now to comment on everything. I see you. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you. I agree with you, Ukulele. You are awesome. You think I'm a W-mod, Jordan? My gosh, you are a brave soul. And everybody else, thank you for your comments. All right, I'm done. Back to the... Sorry.

That's another thing, too. At times, if you want to address... the, the comments, feel free to do that. I mean, that's part of why we do this on Twitch and I don't just do this private and we just have a great conversation and I, and I edit it down and we publish it. No, no, no. It's about the live experience. So absolutely. You're, you're being a mod right now and wanting to engage the chat. I love that. You're just like, you're in, in that mode of, I need to be connected with the people who are, who are commenting and doing that. I see loses is over there typing away, uh, doing, doing the usual way that she's doing things. And, uh, I have not addressed all of them. I've typed a few of them as well. And so like we got three people here that we could all be commenting on everything. We'd get totally sidetracked. But I appreciate you just interrupting and saying you wanted to thank some of the people and who had said different things there. So, so Luce's, did you understand the question? You got an answer for that?

Well, I guess Twitch itself was like a learning experience for me because like I like I said, it It took me like a year for it to actually get the first sword per se. And even when I went to Peter Beowulf's stream, I would ask him questions, but luckily at the time he was watching, doing Subnautica and he had rethought his stream out. So, because he had prayed and stuff, which he'll discuss this with you. So I came in like at the right time and I would ask him questions. He goes like, you know, together type thing, you know? But actually, just the fact that it's been learning and it's constantly learning. And I find sometimes because I mod to different places and I do it on the phone. So it's not like I could have three people on at the same time. So I basically, really what I do is I wake up in the morning and I pray and I say, okay, God, where do you want me to go? You know, where is it that I'm needed so that I could go? And majority of the streamers haven't been, I found out that I have 22 swords, by the way, but not all. So that's fine with me because I could, you know, hang them up to, you know, so you know to put them away but but um uh so sometimes there is two times where actually like there might be two streamers going on but i'll go pop into one and say okay well they have more mods or they're taken care of so then i'll hop over to the other one where there might be only one mod or something or just me the mod yeah like in one stream uh the variety stream i'm the only mod there you know and she actually banned me one time so i'm like really and she did it by mistake but it was that was just like a funny joke like banned the only mod and it's like okay But I've had felt sometimes that God tells me by an uncomfortable feeling that I need to go somewhere. And I'm like, but I don't want to go there, you know, because, you know, I'm very comfortable here. They're playing a game. Everything's cool. You know, I'm all relaxed here and stuff. And I was like, I get this really uncomfortable feel like, no, no, you gotta, you know, you gotta go somewhere else. I'm like, Fine. So I look to see all the people who are alive, and then all of a sudden I say, okay, I guess this is where you want me to go and stuff. And that's my story with EpiTimmy was that... when ukulele once raided and i was in ukulele stream at the time raided into epitome stream he um it was the first time i've never met him he showed up and then i remember him saying like oh i don't i don't shout out everybody and i was like whoa excuse me you know it's like where's the fellowship where's the But it could have been his joking way, and I just didn't get it at the time. So I would go to his stream, but he would always have these big words, like, what do you call, I don't know, those big words like... I had one of my words, apologetics and stuff, which has nothing to do with apologizing, mind you. But I remember because I'm thinking apology, apologetics. I'm like, has nothing to do with apologizing. It has to do with really debating with other people. But those big words, and I'm like, no, I don't have the big brains for that and stuff. god would send me over there and he would have a lot of uh um lurkers but then he would also have other people who would joke around and they would start doing similar to what in the bible's like i'm from apollo i'm from this i'm from you know and i'm like hello you people you know and we're not supposed to be showing this type of thing even though they're joking around but somebody who pops in will be like what they're debating they're you know So, but yeah, he was, he was, that was definitely where I really felt like, you know, the spirit was telling me, go there. I'm like, but I don't want to go there, but I don't want to. That's him and me debating. But once I would get there from feeling their cultural feeling, once I would get there, then all of a sudden it's like, oh okay i feel comfortable now i don't mind and i would tell him those are big words those are big words bring them down and he would have to you know bring them down to size for me and stuff like that and because you know there's a lot of people who knows a lot of you know big words and stuff like give it to me a small way that's why i kind of like i i could deal with flat cap that by pastor because you know he brings it down the cookie jar goes down you know for everybody else

So I don't know if that answered the question. Yeah, that's great. I'm just trying to, in some ways, open it up and let the Spirit lead. I love how you brought that up, though, that you pray and ask God, where are you supposed to go today? And then the obedience that goes with it. oh, I don't want to go over there. This is kind of the experience I had before. I still don't know if I fit over there. And then still being obedient end up being a blessing. And you may have been the one able to ask the questions about, hey, help me understand this. That's going over my head. Where other people might be just lurking and not able to ask and then just going, well, if... I don't understand this. Maybe I'll go somewhere else. And then they're leaving from hanging out with him. I do know all those words. I hate using all those words because we sometimes use them in some ways to make ourselves superior to other people, or we just get so used to talking Christian language that a person who's not a Christian coming in or a non-scholar coming in has... No idea what we're talking about at all. Yeah, go ahead. I'm watching. Say what you're laughing about. No, go ahead. Go ahead. I saw it. sorry the super cala aconite yeah yeah so so banana is trying to to put some hard theological words in there apologetics exegesis supercalifragilisticexpialidocious This is what you miss when you just listen to the podcast later on is all of the side conversations in the chat. I can't go down all those rabbit trails with everything. But anyway. all that yeah you're you're just you're you're you're good you're good yeah christianese thank you ukulele that's that's that's what i don't i have always tried to stay away from that and i as i as i watch what jesus did He told stories to people about how to look at the world, how to look at life. And those stories guide you. You don't have to have a whole lot of language and intellect to be able to understand the good shepherd goes after the sheep. He leaves the 99 and he goes after the one. Now, you've got to wrestle with why you would do that. And you've got to go wrestle with that's good or not good. But you don't have to wrestle with. some really grandiose theological term that doesn't make sense. You're like, okay, is that true to life? Would a shepherd do that? Does that make sense to risk the 99? Are the 99 safe when he leaves? Like you can do all of that, but that's where we can have the conversation around. So I love to have those images that you can grasp onto. I also like, I liked Epi Timmy, you know, and hanging out with him in his stream and And there's other pastors out there, too, that go the more technical route and use the theological terms and are apologetics people. And that's fine. They reach different people than I'm going to reach. Yeah, there are room for those things, but you've got to know. Exactly. They're reaching a different audience than myself. So thank you for being obedient there, Lucis, and how you're doing that and doing stuff. And I love that you shout out everybody because everybody should – like people – Those that don't know, shouting out is just when you give the link to the person's Twitch stream so that other people can go follow that person and find their stream. So normally you do this when a raider comes in or they're regulars in the stream and the streamer will want that person identified. Hey, my buddy over here, my pal over there, my gal over here, they're fantastic streamers like Bananas Ahana. Hey, go follow Bananas Ahana. go follow ukulele for worship and then they'll put that in there so you can just hit the link and go so you don't have to find it so that's what a shout out is lucis shouts out like everybody you you say hello in the chat lucis is over there shouting you out and saying go follow this person they're like i don't stream that's okay i shout everybody out like it's a way of welcoming and ingratiating at least in my stream and and lucis does that not all my other mods do so if you're you know a lot of times ask especially when there's a raid Usually shout out the Raider. What was that?

I'm watching you people. I'm watching you people actually says something about me about shouting out. Do you remember what you say I'm watching you people?

I've said a lot. Help me.

Something about if an ant crawls up the wall, she shouts her out or something.

Yeah. Everybody gets love.

Exactly.

Exactly. So while Epi Timmy has a different approach and a different standard on that, we've gone the other way in my stream. And like, yes, make everybody feel like they're worth the same level of appreciation. And a shout out is one way to show appreciation. So why not shout everybody out? I love that.

Yeah, I don't know if he's actually softened or it's just that I've gotten used to him. Either way, I still kind of miss him though.

So just as a mod, you get to witness and being in multiple streams. And if you want to throw in, I'm watching an example that's when you've been the streamer and not the mod, that's fine too. But just what have been some... a story or two of experiences that you got to partake in on a stream. Like someone came in and their day was awful and the streamer and the chat responded to that person or they were going through something in life and they came back later and you got to be a part of some blessing moments for someone who was going through a difficult time or needed prayer. What are some stories that you have about

moments two or three so if you tell one and then go to the other person and back and forth we can spend a little time just kind of chatting about some blessing experiences that you've seen as as being on twitch well actually when i was in watching your stream the other day i don't remember when right now but somebody came in with uh with an issue right now i don't remember and watching your people basically let the mods and everybody in chat to actually take care of it because she was like, you know, playing a game or something, you know, and she trusted us enough to actually, you know, deal with it, you know, encourage the person or whatever it is. At this given time, I don't remember what it was exactly, but because every time somebody comes in, they tell you their life story and you're kind of like, oh, wow, I'm sorry to hear that. And, you know, we'll pray for you. And, you know. That sort of stuff, you know.

Okay. What have just been some, you know, things that you've been a part of where a blessing happened to someone in a streamer's chat? It could be your own, too, or just in the community where someone came in with a problem or something else or someone shared something or just even maybe some kind of gifting or something that happened. So just, like, some blessed moments that you've been a part of by being on Twitch.

Um... I've been in other people's chats where a person would come in and speak to that streamer and not give their full life story, but just kind of let them know that they're going through stuff to just pray for them. And they do. And then there could be just this random person that came in for the first time. and they say hi to that same person and they say do you stream and then they say yeah i mean i haven't been on in a couple of months but i guess i will eventually and then all of a sudden the person busts out crying well typing that they're crying because that person just dropped them a hundred subs in a channel they haven't modded in for like three four months i love that stuff that shows you gotta be at work and i'm not assuming that that person was a streamer it could have just been somebody who wanted to drop a few thousand dollars or whatever before tax time game i don't know but i love that stuff and that shows me that god will work through anybody in any situation it could catch you off guard this person was a first time chatter i don't remember seeing that person since that day and my memory's not great but some men would stand in time i don't remember seeing them anymore i think that was one of those i got you baby moments

I love moments like that that are unexpected for everybody in the stream, too, of, hey, here's a blessing that someone just wants to go and to give to someone. You know, you're talking about the just drop a whole bunch of subs. Well, that, I love your thought. Maybe it's tax time and they needed a write-off. But it is amazing how, at times... A channel, a person can just be in the right place at the right time, and God moves somebody to respond in that way. I'm working on going to Africa on a trip, and I had shared that on the stream. And over the weekend a couple of weeks ago, somebody who's been in my stream – for years and maybe they've sobbed, but that's been it. They just dropped me a fantastic gift like off stream. They did that to say, hey, here, I wanna contribute to that. And a few years ago when I was starting the prayer booth, I had posted, hey, I'm gonna start a prayer booth. It's gonna cost me this much money to be able to do it. And someone did it. I love those moments of just like generosity that take place. um to because they're like so unexpected and they do need to be celebrated and i i love that like god can just move into people's lives and we don't even know the need so very very cool amen that's good Yeah, those drive-by blessings are always amazing to witness. One reason says, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Any other? I've actually. Go ahead.

I've actually witnessed like an epitome stream where actually, actually. the person came and had issues or whatever, and basically wanted to find out about God and stuff. And he literally, he broke it down. He took out his little notebook in the screen and he broke it down about, you know, how God is this, how God is that. And, and he really explained it, you know, like if it was a teacher and the person said that they accepted Christ and that happened like more than once, you know, then we read it into, uh, Christian Ninja, and we kind of told them about it and stuff. And, you know, so everybody was excited how the community actually, you know, gets all excited about, you know, other people's victory, another one for the Christ.

Yeah, yeah. For those people that don't fully know and understand, there are people that are searching. And we know this because that's one reason through the 80s and 90s there were seeker-sensitive churches. They were trying to create spaces that were welcoming, inviting for those people. Well, in the last couple of decades, those churches are still out there, but they're not really as inviting as they were. And because of divisiveness in the country, there's a lot of people that are just unclear and uncertain of walking through the doors of a church ever. So we need to have places where people can show up and ask questions. And a person streaming is a really less than threatening thing. I can say what I want. I'm hiding behind a screen. They don't actually know who I am. They won't see me again unless I choose to come back. So it becomes non-threatening to a person who is seeking. And... They are coming into streamers, and Epi Timmy, myself, Pastor North, we do Bible studies, but there's plenty of others who will, and Pastor North also, they're playing games, they're doing other things. And then there's other streamers who aren't pastors who might do Bible study once a week or do a devotion in addition to what they do for gaming. So there's lots of different avenues and different ways to do that, and people can come in. and be curious and be non-threatening place for them to be able to come and and and find god and that's just amazing that he's had a couple of those experiences that's awesome to be part of can i put a part two on it yeah i was gonna say did you have any other story so yeah put a part two on that i

I guess this is more of a pay it forward, though to me it still feels like that. So I'm sitting there because when I think about God giving people awesome blessings, even if I wasn't there, I'd be telling people about it like I was there. So first of all, I'm going to tell you what happened before I tell you how the blessing happened. so this was i'm not sure how many months ago banana could tell you but she had uh she was sharing a fundraiser for her mother um i believe it was a gofundme and she also needed some assistance with different things and there was this organization was it kind i can't remember his name but he came through and knocked out no somebody he was connected to knocked out his her mother's gold and then somebody else came out and i think was it a thousand dollars they gave you six months ago yeah i was like yo when i found out because i wasn't there and i'm sitting there streaming just chilling and she all these people She says that to me. I'm like, what? Like, oh, 100 and who people? Oh, shoot. Y'all, hi. I couldn't talk well. You were there, banana. It's hilarious now. But that's another thing I love. The power of a raid is amazing. It is truly taking all that love and support, all that knowledge, all those people, those numbers, and just sharing it. Now, I... Say that because of the example. I'm actually one of those weird people that want to stay a small streamer. It's not going to happen. God's going to change it. I feel it happening. Now, God, please let me stay small. Anyway, but when she said those people, I was like, who? When I tell you imposter syndrome hit me so bad, like, why? Who? You sure you said that to the right person? But I said, you know, I'm going to just hush and take this blessing. The power of a raid is awesome. And people can drop it on somebody so unexpecting and below a mind. Bored people with like 12 bucks in their pocket, like I really paid all my bills. I don't have anything to do. Why not? Let me just give it to this person. Can take that $12 and break a person's channel record. Can take that $12 and fill up their little... they got to get groceries for the week. It is beautiful what you could do. Sometimes it's purposeful and sometimes it's random, but I'm telling you streamers, be you new or be you years into it, maybe you got a bit jaded. The power of a raid is awesome. Bless those quote unquote, I'm going to say quote unquote small streamers because you never know. dad might be using you oh well he definitely it might be it might not just be some random thing you do you might not know you might be blessing angels underwear so i'm just telling you might be to somebody an angel underwear so use those ratio yeah that's that's so good and and uh ukulele was mentioning one of the other things that she does

She keeps a journal of different things. I tend to try to make a video of it and post it and tell those stories again and again and again. Oh, ukulele. We're like, what do we have? You just got the cheer. 1,200. Well, 1,375 biddies anyway. Woo-hoo! all right you had biddies and you just thank you ukulele appreciate that uh i like i get really excited about biddies like like yeah they're small it doesn't matter the widows might gave all that she had i never know when someone gives me two biddies like there's a couple of people i know that go around And they have maybe, you know, $5 that they're going to give out for the entire month. And so they'll give two bits here and two bits there and two bits there. Like, you gave them to me. Or you were talking about subs. Like, you could have given that anywhere. Or your Prime sub, you could have given that anywhere. And you chose to participate in my stream and make that a part of celebrating this community. I appreciate that so very much. Thank you, Ukulele.

uh yeah oh it's still low tiny house oh sorry i didn't cut you off i was reading a comment they say your volume's a bit low um like it um on my side or your side sorry i don't see where that was at uh that's a good question um oh it's on your side she's they're on your side so i should be coming through desk you know what can i change my output for you Just FYI. I think it's...

If you click on the three bubbles and then share together, it will give you guest volume and you can turn my volume up right there. Or at least it does on my side for guests. I can change yours. So maybe you can do it on your side.

I'm looking. Okay.

So, like, find the three little dots, find my picture. Next to your name? Yep, yep.

Okay, guess volume. Oh, it's low. Man, why is this so low?

Turn that up. There we go. Is that better? Why is this so low? Thank you for letting us know over there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I wish y'all had told me. Oh, I'm sorry. Y'all probably did. I was still getting my mind together from earlier. I'm sorry. It takes me a while to calm down when I'm tense. I'm sorry.

It's still low, she said. It's a little bit higher. A little bit softer now. A little bit softer now. Oh, no. Sorry. Wrong song. Wrong song.

Oh my gosh, I was about to sing it, sir. You done rubbed off on me. Then again, no. This is me. I'm goofy. I can't even blame you.

A little bit louder now. A little bit louder now. A little bit louder now. I don't know. There we go.

Are you going to sing?

You make me shout.

I'm just saying.

Sorry, sorry. You asked that question, and that is a song in a show. He's going to sing. He's going to sing. No, no, no, no, no singing here. No singing. If you know that, if you know that movie, you're welcome. You're welcome.

It's because you changed the words to the songs and then you messed the songs up for us.

I don't think they're messed up. They're perfectly fine. Perfectly fine.

Because remember, y'all, he's 98% sure he's right all the time. It's just that 2% he's not sure about.

No, no, no, no. Exactly. It's only 80% of the time.

Oh, what? I'm sorry. I got the number wrong.

That's someone else who has an idea. No, no, no. You have to say it right. You have to say it right.

See, this is what's fun.

I have my mods on here giving me a hard time on my podcast on another channel. Thank you. Thank you.

Because we get to speak now.

We never agreed if we were going to throw him under the bus. I mean, she said it. I'm just kind of jumping along with it.

It's the power of Lucy's. It's her fault.

What are you talking about?

Okay, so here's what I say. I am 100% convinced that 80% of what I believe is 100% right. I just don't know which is the 80 and which is the 20. All right. Jordan Williams had a question. If you may ask a question for you and the guests, how is sharing the gospel on Twitch in today's world important to you and the community of streaming as a whole to you? Jordan, that is a fantastic question.

All right. I knew somebody was going to do it.

I'll let the mods go first. I'll let the mods go first. So how is sharing the gospel on Twitch in today's world important to you and the community of streaming as a whole?

Well, for me, my name actually is sort of like a testimony because it's five luces, which means lights in Spanish. Looses means light. So we're supposed to shine God's light wherever we are. And the five represent, well, I might as well explain the whole name. The five represents my family member. I'm the mom. I have a husband. I have three kids. So these are the five lights. And basically, if they should ask me, I give them that explanation that, you know, I'm supposed to shine God's light wherever I go. So henceforth, there's my testimony.

Yeah. Well, and I can verify I've gotten Christmas cards with all of the picture of everybody in the family. And we have met in person once, which was really cool. Even though it was only for an hour, I got to hang out with you and two of your daughters and to see two of the lights, which was super blessing. But... It is part of what you bring as a mod to the channels is bringing that light. So I love that you do that. i did i did to begin with though think that you were just trying to be clever with the five and use a five instead of an s so i think to begin with i was calling you sluices and i thought that's that's a fun name sluices yeah i've i've had many names actually ninja christian ninja call me sluices and pineapple bugs me every so often you know with that name

because she knows it's so funny when I keep correcting him and say, no, it's Lucis. There's no S, you know? And then I tell him what the five stands for. But, you know, so many names go through the chat that... People tend to forget, you know, and then I go to somebody else's and they shorten my name and they go Lucy's and they go, what do you call loose? If I go to North Hill, it's like, hey, loose. And I'm like, okay, that's even shorter. I thought my name was short enough. But, you know, apparently you're able to find a shorter version than that.

Well, there are some people, and you mentioned Christian Ninja. I think that, like, for the longest time, whenever I showed up in stream, he would intentionally say my name wrong. Flat capper, dapper, dapper, capper, capper, dapper, papper. And you just like rattle on for a minute and doing that. And then I've got Mark Lutz from Lux Digital Church. He just calls me flat, like one syllable. That's it. We're not getting any longer. You get one syllable. So, yeah, I really shorten the name, nicknames. Those are all fun. But when we miss the name and we're not doing it on purpose, we miss the – piece that you're trying to bring there so i like i like that you explained that um to go back to the question in case in case you forgot it uh i'm watching you people um how is sharing the gospel on twitch in today's world important to you and the community of streaming as a whole jordan finally got me to shut up okay i had to think on that oh man okay

First and foremost, let me preface this by saying my way of sharing the gospel ain't your mama's way of sharing the gospel. To me, my life is supposed to be a testimony. I'm a living testimony. So the way I engage anyone is I'm shining my light on this platform. um that means i'm trying to show you what the love of god is before i ever mention anything about god the bible or salvation because you know how they say there's entry ways to drugs and alcohol and all that stuff smoking and all that stuff there's an entryway to god it's called love you know you're supposed to bring an atmosphere you're supposed to make people feel welcome you're supposed to show them this is true love you know and i'm not perfect at it i'm still a human learning this whole experience of walking with the lord but to the best of my ability every day he gives me i wake up and i say god i'm awake thank you i want to do three things i want to please you i want to bless at least one person and hopefully when i do my devotion tonight i can retain that information that's my overview he knows the rest so when i come on the chat yes i do community games it's a great it's a great breaker of um ice it brings people in it's good for anybody no matter where they are what their religion beliefs or whatever is we're all having fun if you can remember family friendly i don't care if you're christian or not if you can obey those rules and keep that together and remember we might get some teens in here and i don't care if they're on tick tock and i don't care if they see everything in the world it doesn't mean you have to keep adding to it be your best self boss don't worry we got an email to remind you you know what i'm saying and then i do that now yes people come in broken they come and hurt they come in mad and angry they vent like a son of a gun and i tell them to the best of my ability i will pray i will reach out to the chat I'll say prayer warriors, the ones who are, they know it. I don't need to mention any names. Help me here because what I know, I know. And what I don't, I don't. I'm not adding anything to his word. I'm not taking anything away from it. If you caught me off guard, you did. But I know the one who has all the answers. So I'm going to pray most of the time in my head. I'm a rambler. You don't want to hear my prayers most of the time. And then I'm going to keep going. It doesn't mean I'm ignoring you. It means you came into a community game stream. and we're doing community gays but i stopped and i gave you some time because you're a person and you matter to god and you matter to me if there's anything else that's what the discord is for we got prayer requests we got praise reports we've got games you will be engaged but i am here to do it that way my testimony is still in effect I am still getting over peeing. I have self-esteem issues of the wazoo. I have imposter syndrome. I just realized that in the last couple of months. I'm getting past that. I can't be a leader in the same way that other streamers can be. I'm not a worship leader. I'm not a pastor. I don't want to teach in that way. I just want to be love, which is what the world needs. So use me, God. That's it.

That's it. That was fantastic. And Tiny House of Worship really put it back in there. The entryway to God is called love. Oh, my goodness. That is so good. I clipped that. Definitely will use that clip and put that out there. The entryway to God is love.

Ooh, a new T-shirt. Sorry. Yes, yes.

We need a new t-shirt. The entryway to God. It's called love. Oh man. Talking about like there's gateway drugs to, you know, that you get into the deeper, harder stuff. Well, there's a gateway to God called love. I just thought imagery was fantastic. Jordan, I know you were asking mods there, but I think that's a really important question to think through is why is it important to be in this space? And for me, there's the... this is where people are and we are to go to all the world so if we take the i don't know is it 3.3 billion gamers that are on the world not all of them are on twitch what if we take the 3.3 billion people that are gamers and we put them all on a continent we said sorry you have to come over to our continent to hear about jesus we would all roll our eyes and go what are you talking about so if there are 3.3 billion gamers and the bulk of them are hanging out on twitch Why aren't we going to them? And so it's important to me because we are to go, and while going, we are to be those who make disciples wherever we go while we're going and teaching them to obey everything that Jesus has given us. So that's why it's important to me is because this is one of those places where people dwell. And... I didn't plan on being here, and now that I am, this is where I'm going to spend a lot of time for, I don't know, the next 20 years at least, unless the platform goes away. I'm going to be here hanging out and being salt and light in the space because that's what Jesus done told us to do. If I quote Pastor North there for a minute. If you've never heard Pastor North pray, because Jesus done told us to. One of the favorite things I love that he says that.

And told us to. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you got the emphasis there, yeah. Yeah, that's what he does.

DJ Stacy, absolutely truth there. We need more people to be themselves and not be carbon copies, 100%. And also, yeah, like how can you let your light shine if it's not you? How can you let your light shine if it's not you? Like, you know, we don't need... I'm watching you people to be a pastor if she's not a pastor. We don't need that. We don't need ten hands and no feet. We need hands. We need feet. We need every part of the body to be the part of the body that God's made them to be. We need the mods. We need others. Jordan, you had another question there that was follow-up, and I'm going to just summarize it in this way. Because we kind of addressed the first part of your question there. You know, guest services, how you see people entering the church, greeters at the door. We kind of already addressed that earlier. Maybe you didn't catch that, but I like the second part. What are characteristics of a successful mod as a believer? Yeah, that's what I thought was a good one. So what are some successful characteristics that a Christian mod should have?

Let's just take over. I'm thinking.

Go and invite Jordan Williams into this conversation. Oh, sir. I didn't prepare for these things. I'm thinking. Well, I guess by showing who you are, by showing that you're a Christian, by being different than what the world does, I don't know, like, I've heard, let's say, for instance, somebody offended a streamer that you like, so you go to that other streamer and you go and offend them. You know, as Christians, we're not supposed to do that. We're supposed to basically, you know, put it in prayer, you know, and just put it in prayer and pray for the situation or for the whatever the issue might be. Basically, you know... I used to watch, I used to be on Facebook and Facebook would actually have, you know, everybody would show the best moments in their lives and stuff like that. And I'm like, you know, there's got to be something else. You know, it's like, it's like watching commercials, you know, it's like having a party and, you know, it's like, meanwhile, it's like, you don't know that after you drink and have a party, then you're going to have a headache and a hangover and all that bunch of other stuff, you know, but that, you know, commercials seem like, oh, it's wonderful. So when I came to Twitch, I learned that actually there's people who actually have issues, physical issues, and they're streaming, who have mental issues. And yet, you know, they're there, you know, and they could tell you right out, listen, you know, I'm having financial problems, this and that and stuff. And then you feel for them and you, you know, you help them out as best you can and stuff. Or, you know, or you pray for them and stuff. And, you know, it's more I find it to the point that actually somebody could even cough, you know, or kind of like rub their nose, you know, stuff that actually you could be yourself literally yourself and some people actually eat while they're streaming and, you know, because that's the only time they have to do it and stuff. you know and it's um and it's it's not so much like i'm performing it's this is me you know take it or leave it you know this is probably what i won't show you in irl also because i know some streamers that actually you know the people who see them in irl say why aren't you like this in real life but in twitch you're like this and it's like you know maybe that's the inner you that you can't expose or don't feel like you could expose to other people you know but yet you feel comfortable enough to do it on twitch you know because you will not be i don't know uh you know questioned or look badly or whatever it is you could be yourself you know and you know so that's basically what i think is like you basically should actually be yourself you know And let the love of God appear. Let the love of God exposed to whatever you do. Actually, in everything you do, even outside of Twitch. But still, I notice it a lot more on Twitch. Let's just say that.

Very good. I'm watching. How about you? What do you think makes a successful Christian mod?

Did you expect me to come at the... Now, now, now, Lucis, did you have to drop the whole MC mic like that? Like, man, uh-uh, lick your lips like LL. Don't do that today. I'm messing with you.

You're just giving me time to speak, you know?

I'm joking. I'm joking. My questions, my answers might be pretty simple, but, or maybe they're complex, but I'm going to reread it real quick. Hold up in my head. okay i guess my mind broke it down like this as in being a successful mod um it's kind of a joke and kind of not when i tell people i'm an unprofessional mod that means i'm not unprofessional it's just i'm wing i'm learning it every time i come into a stream i'm getting it more and more i don't think i'm there yet um same thing with being a believer i'm going to be practicing following the lord until the day he calls me home I'm never going to be successful at it until he says, well done. So I'm always going to be in practice at both. I think the thing that would make me successful is again, shining my light. Everybody has one. It's all in the scripture. He wants you to be a reflection of him. Now, as a mod, what that means is if I'm modding for a Christian, of course, we're following his values. We're doing his rules. We're just trying to be an extension of what they're trying to do if they're truly following the Lord. There are also people I mod for who are not Christian. That doesn't mean I'm going to be saying that everybody needs to repent. You're going to hell. No, it means I'm going to show genuine love and hospitality to anybody. i don't care if you come in there cussing if that streamer allows it okay i'm okay i if you say it to me i'm gonna say okay can you chill i just met you please don't talk to me like that but i'll find a respectful way of doing it but at the end of the day you show love you show hospitality you stay learning Don't act like you got it all together. Please don't be band heavy all day long. Please realize that people have different ways of processing things, dealing with stuff. They understand it might be different. They may have put a typo in the chat. Patience. I think those are professional ways to be, well, not professional, but at least successful ways. I think that's the best way I can answer it. I don't know if I did it right.

Well, I think those are all valid things that both of you added to the conversation, and Jordan did follow up with part of what his thinking was. And part of, like, I think we addressed that on the last one, or at least in a recent podcast we did talk about culture, and then part of what he was saying, you were saying you just didn't use the same language, is... putting the culture in the community and you set the tone for the culture along with the streamer um and you uphold the culture that the streamer has so there's there's a bit of that the boundaries the control the applying the wisdom you all said that but those are those are the things he added to that so uh what did i miss uh but whoever said you have to be a successful oh yeah well And we have to quantify what a success means, which, you know, does success mean numbers or does success mean growth? Yeah. I would say success means doing everything as unto the Lord. That's what I would quantify success as. So there's my answer for success. All right. anything that uh we haven't talked about um that you were thinking that you wanted to share so just before i i go in another direction is there anything i'm watching or loses that uh you wanted to be able to talk about or you wanted to make sure that you shared uh in our time together um mods are needed guys um as you can see there's mixed media i have

Some more positive things to say about myself as a mod. Always growing. Don't always get it, but I'm growing. But a lot of people in the chat seem to think I'm pretty all right. Get out of here. So realize that mods are needed. You're not expected to be perfect. Keep learning. Ask questions. If you think you want to be a mod, know that as much as we have fun, we get to troll and push buttons. It does also work. I mean, you are literally supporting a streamer. that is not to make you overwhelmed, but it has weight. It has power, and power used effectively can change the whole atmosphere. So if you want to be a streamer and make a difference in this world, awesome. But if you're like, I'm not sure, I need to get my feet wet, being a mod definitely does that. Because even though you're doing it for somebody else, it also gives you insights into what that streamer goes through. how they deal with stuff and how it helps to have a good support network in place. That's all I can think of. That's it.

Okay. Good stuff.

Lucis.

Okay. Let me address Mr. Jordan Williams thing at me. Says, why are you not talking more often? You're awesome. I thank you for the little cookies after, you know, throwing me under the bus with a few hard questions. He got me free cookies for, you know, throwing me under the bus. You know, big questions and stuff. You know, big brain questions.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm laughing. Stop laughing. We've got to control ourselves here. Okay. Basically, people would probably say, oh, why aren't you streaming? And basically I have two autistic children. And even though they go to school and stuff like that, which gives me the free time to do it, it's like, it's too much for me to handle. So basically I like to go to stream and Twitch, excuse me, and streamers and actually, and be their support, be their backup and be, you know, an encourager. once actually somebody told me you're an encourager and i'm like hey you know that does sound like me because i really can't support like financial support but i could encourage you and i could say yeah you're doing great like i would tell i'm watching people like just breathe just breathe you're doing good you know it's like it's you got this you know So it's, you know, it's that sort of stuff. Not everybody could be a streamer, even though they probably sound wonderful on the phone or wonderful on the microphone. But some people got, you know, we're not all meant to be the hands. We're not all meant to be the feet. We're not meant to be the heads. You know, there's different parts of the body. And basically, I just feel like I like to be in the background, like. pushing other people ahead and say, hey, you got this, go, go, go, you know, and try to help in any which way I can. Like, for instance, the Hopeful Disasters actually has, what do you call, reading the Bible for like four days, the whole Bible, and they're doing continuously. And I noticed, you know, forged by grace actually did it uh he actually started putting like oh chapter this and chapter that so after he left i was like okay you know book this chapter this numbers chapter five numbers chapter been a mod over there but you know it's like i felt it helped for anybody who showed up and says oh they're up to this book or they're up to this chapter and stuff and you know and that's how i like to be i like to like help people out and stuff and any little which way small tech savvy thing that i've that i can't it's kind of funny talking about him I told them because he has a bot and I told them about, what do you call it? The idea just came to me because I know who chapter verse is or chapter verse, who made chapter verse and who the streamer is and stuff like that. And it just happened, that thought just happened to me. And I said, okay, I'll tell him, I don't know what this is gonna help in any which way. So I told him, listen, you know, Missionary Gamer is actually the person who did chapter verse and stuff, you know? And I don't, you know, like, I'm like saying, I don't know exactly what it is that I'm supposed to tell you this, but I'll tell you this. And then later on, he answered me back. He goes, you know, it's a good thing because I was trying to get through ukulele. I knew his name was Peter, but now I'm able to actually, he could help me out to see how. both bots don't conflict or take one out of the other. So it was like, I'm like, okay, I guess God needed me to tell you this because I didn't, I had no idea what this meant to you or to anybody else. But yeah, that's just me. I just like to support people and be in the background, pushing up and, you know, lighting up the chat.

Yeah, and I think that as a pastor, those are some of the most important people in the church. People think that the pastor is the most important person in the church. The person that is the greeter, that is the encourager, that is the person who brings hospitality. has that giftingness is the key to the whole community. It's not the person who's the smartest. It's not the person who's the loudest. It's the person who can see and identify and make everybody feel better after having been there. And I'll say this for anybody who's ever modded for me. I love whenever my mods show up and they start chatting. I feel better as a streamer when my mods are there. It doesn't mean I have to have every mod. Like you were saying earlier, sometimes you're the only mod, Lucis, that shows up for a streamer. And I don't have the expectation you have to be there every time I stream or you're going to get the sword taken away. No, it's the, wow, you're here, and now I can trust that I've... Like, today was a really good example. Like, I'm not on my regular rig streaming on my other channel earlier today, and I'm having to read the chat on my phone. And I'm like, I can't keep up with it today. I'm going to be missing a whole bunch of stuff. I absolutely needed mods today. For anybody that's listening that is a mod or thinking about being a mod, don't. Some of you might need to mod first, learn things, because ultimately God will lead you on to being a streamer. But one of the problems that we often have in the church is we have people who become deacons, and we think, oh, well, that's just a junior elder. When you get good, you can become an elder. Or you're a youth pastor, and people will say, when are you going to become a real pastor? No, no, no, no. If you're gifting and your call is someplace, why are you abandoning that to go someplace else because the world thinks it has higher value? So I don't think that I can show any more appreciation than to be able to say, hey, mods, I want to talk to you. I know you don't usually talk on stream. Okay, we're not going to talk on camera. You're going to come on anyway. And we're going to have a conversation because we are friends. And I appreciate you. And I love having time with you. And someday, someday I'm going to get together with I'm watching you people. That hasn't happened yet. And someday I'm going to get everybody to reach conference or Nerd Culture Ministry Summit or some other place where my mods at least, I can't say for everybody on stream, but my mods at least, I really want to hang out with my mods at some point. And Samus, welcome in. Jordan, we treat the church like a workplace, like its promotional system. Yeah. Yeah, we often do. We often do that. And it's no wonder that's what the world around us does. So we sometimes just bring that in expecting that that's the way the church should operate. All right. Sam, thank you. Flat cap is a wise man. Well, I have a lot of experience, and often experience is one of the best teachers, and a lot of my experience comes from doing it wrong. So I learn. Thankfully, I do learn from mistakes. Sometimes it takes four tries to make sure I'm wrong before I decide I am wrong and I should change, but I do try to learn from those. Oh, you're right. Not all who have experience learn from it. Very true. Very true. And Samus, you know, we still need to get you on the podcast this year. I'm not putting any pressure on you. I'm saying this year. So you got time. You got time. And Jordan, where in the kingdom of God is... In juxtapose to the world way, and everyone plays a vital role, are equal, because of the common goal is to glorify God. You know, let me give you an example here of what you're talking about there, of how God prepares people with certain gifts and talents. I did go to, so this is Unstream related, but it's a good example. We went to Africa for a mission conference, a conference, a teaching conference to Sunday school workers and women's conference. And we were teaching them. And one of the things we were teaching is spiritual gift and using your spiritual gift. And we had 50 women at the conference. 48 out of 50 women had the spiritual gift of mercy. Now, those that don't know, this was within a decade of the genocide that happened in Rwanda. Do you think it was happenstance and chance that in the top two spiritual gifts of 48 out of 50 women was mercy? That was absolutely needed. How do you love the community after this genocide has happened? How do you love the people that perpetrated it? How do you love the people that... were under threat of their own life and gave up somebody that ended up dead. And like, how do you bring the community back to any, like, you need mercy. And 40 out of the 50 women that we were with had that spiritual gift in their top two spiritual gifts. Tell me that God doesn't prepare us to have what we need at the time. for uh being able to use it so yeah don't don't say sorry what we need here is leadership to lead us forward know what we needed was mercy and and god had already put it in the community to be able to use that so ah samus see if we can schedule something after ncms i love that idea sounds good yeah story time with flat cap love it love it well i i don't want to make this podcast about me but it felt like an appropriate time to share that story so all right uh I'm going to go a different direction here. I don't know if I really worded it or shared this way. What are some things that are happening within streamers that you are in their community that you're looking forward to this year? So we have Blessing Boat that's tomorrow. That's a regular thing that's ongoing. But are there some things, and you mentioned the hopeful disasters is reading in the Bible right now from beginning to end. I believe, just a shout out for those who are in chat, this on the podcast will make no difference to you. Ya'aik Ben here is going to be doing reading tonight at six o'clock, I believe, Eastern time. I believe that's what he shared earlier today. So if you want to go check that out, if you know Ya'aik Ben here, he was on the podcast last week. So just want to give a hype to him and, uh, uh, you know, props so that you can go and check that out. But are there, are there particular things that, and I'm watching, if you've got something you're going to be planning, cause you're all like, oh my goodness, you plan so many collab things. So if you've got any of those, do you want to talk about and get excited about, uh, or loses, if you know anything for any of the streamers you're with that's coming up, what are some things you're looking forward to being a, a, a mod for this year?

Oh, being a mod for.

Well, you could be, you could be the one doing it too. But I'm just saying, I was thinking Lucy's, you know, cause she's going to be modding for it.

So I don't actually, like I told you out of those swords, there's only about five or six that actually are really, you know, because a lot of people were more active, I guess they're all seasonal sometimes because sometimes, you know, certain seasons of the, of the year there everybody's there like when reach out reach con was going on it was like barely nobody was on it was like so everybody was like trying to find a reach con uh what it could stream or something just so that you could kind of feel like you're there even if you're not, so you could actually see some of the stuff. So a lot of people actually was like, oh, so-and-so is doing it. So it's like, oh, let's follow so-and-so so we can actually see what's happening at ReachCon, you know? And there was times where actually there was, you know, more than one streamers in the same room playing bowling. Excuse me, a pool, playing pool, the pool table. It was like three or four streamers at the pool table. And I'm like, okay, this is different points of view, but it's the same thing. but um but yeah i i well as far as reach on i have been trying to go to reach con from the very beginning the first year um i think what was it oh yeah the first year my it was my mom's birthday her 90th birthday and then the second year it's like my niece got married so hopefully this year i'll be able to go i got the tickets i still don't know you know where i'm gonna stay or any other stuff but at least i got the tickets so uh Yeah, hopefully if nothing else happens, I should be there to see you physically again. Yes. I would love to take on watching your people with me, but, you know, she has other things.

Well, she did win my ticket that I gave away for affiliate anniversary. So she has a ticket to be able to go. So we just have to figure out all the rest of the details.

And the throwing under the bus never ends. Leave it alone, y'all. Leave it alone. Stop it.

So what activities do you have or you're participating in coming up this year?

You know, I don't know what the heck's been going on since my birthday last year, but everybody keeps inviting me to stuff. I'm going to just say thank you. I'm going to do it. So now I'm going to be in the All Hail Queens Gospel Edition pre-train. Thank you, One Reason. Every time somebody invites me to something, I'll be like, really? Oh, thank you. Sure.

I'll be like, what?

And that's going to be pretty cool. So, yeah, we're going to be a... representing fall that loud come on now yes we love that stuff um i'm looking forward to biblethon 2026 that's gonna be fire oh my gosh i gotta see idj's trailer from last year that's one of my favorite things to watch on youtube now and then the new one is tight but look it's just literally fellowshipping to the earth okay and she is going to go through that whole bible and it's just so many activities it's such a wonderful time of fellowship go hey holla she's in the chat um i've done ray trains y'all will see them if you're in the discord you'll see them i mean we have one that i've been really liking i will mention one i love the let it shine ray train i felt like i'm always playing games but i tell people i play games but not about jesus even though we in here doing squirtle and words on stream or something like i tell people all the time you're going to hear about him if not for me and my music my mods or some sound alert and i said let me make this more visible i want people to know i'm not laughing at joking all the time i love jesus so i said let me not just make it all about me let me get some of these folks that i know in my community let's show y'all what they be doing for the lord so we got the third one coming up next month i got some cool folk up in there we got some people y'all live to see and then we got some cool dope new ones you'll see it and you're gonna be like oh my gosh and i'm not bragging on who i know i'm bragging on god i'm just glad i met people that love them so i'm glad to be part of that that i'm learning more about the ways of doing grade trains how you go about the process i like that um what else am i doing this year Nothing big. I don't really want to talk about myself much. I just love seeing people that's just really getting down. And they don't necessarily have to be always doing things that are fully God-centered as long as it's positive. Nothing else really comes to mind deeply that I've been invited to or that I want to really put out there at the moment. But like I said, you'll see it here or you'll see it in the Discord. Those are the main ones for now.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, part of it is just to kind of like – I usually talk to streamers and ask that, but there's also like you're participating in a different level with those raid trains and those things. Like, yeah, it's not about just you being a part of it or you're organizing it. It is about the community of Christians who are in the space, who are doing collaborations, and mods are a big part of that as well, of making those things be able to take place and happen together. and and i know twitch does this well in and of itself by having community because we were having some tech issues to begin with you and i had spent some time papsteel and you would spend some time and then what worked really well was when banana was able to give you a screenshot of the new thing to try to try and you were able to get everything so it's like it's the whole collaborative piece which is what i wanted to kind of focus on with that is how we interweave within each other that does not happen on other platforms. Like, you don't have raid trains on YouTube. Like, no, no, no. Like, if you're live, where do you go? Facebook Live, where do you go? You're done. And people go home. Go home. You can't stay here. Go, go. But on Twitch, it's like... No, the whole community can stay together and go to the next thing and be a part of the next thing and be a part of the next thing that's happening. You don't have to go home. Well, you might be at home already, but, you know, you could stay on Twitch for a long time and continue to take part of it. That's interesting that we had. um mentioned in this of uh hopeful disasters doing a read through the bible from beginning to end and uh dj idj going to be doing her bible thon reading um and it's like i love that these are people that are non-pastors reading okay you don't have to be a professional to read the bible Now, you might not answer every question. I can't answer every question. And there's lots of stuff that I don't know. But that shouldn't stop us from doing what we can do. The same way that we've talked about, well, you don't have all the answers. You don't have all the tech stuff. If you waited. Until you knew every question and how to address every question that you needed to to be the best mod there was, you would never start modding. If you had to know all of the tech of a mod in order to be a streamer, nobody would start streaming. So we shouldn't have the barrier of we have to know everything in order to share our faith. Oh, well, people might ask me questions. Good. Say I don't know. Let's find out. That's the way to handle that.

Can I piggyback real quick?

Yeah, absolutely.

When it comes to being a mod, it's like I say with my chat, never stop learning.

Yeah.

Never stop learning.

Yep.

Well, with streaming, I think Jate Live is the one who coined this, and I really like the way he says it is, get 1% better every day. Get 1% better every day. That's the strive is to get 1% better. Not let's say I need to be 100% better a year from now and it's daunting. I have to do more. I have to do that. No, no, just in one area of streaming, I'm better today than I was yesterday. And so that's really what we try to do. I think in all of our areas of life is be better than you were yesterday. That's it.

Mm-hmm.

All right. Anyone else have questions in the chat? I think we've covered all the topics and the things that I wanted to do and to think about. Otherwise, we'll just end up on some tangent talking about other things. Melanated Empress, welcome in. And you may be even lurking. To God be the glory, doing an awesome job. Yes. It's been fantastic hanging out with my mods and being able to chat with them. I'm super excited about that. know have you again um on uh a stream together we've done that i think once before i'm watching you people with the church digital so this is your second time doing that uh that would have been uh over a year ago And so now back and on again. So my podcast is pretty much designed to be on once. So I don't know. I'm trying to think of it. I might have to do a celebration. I just realized, and I missed it, there was an affiliate-iversary for the Church Digital Stream last month, and I didn't pay attention to it because I was... focused on my own that happened last month so i might need to do a celebration kind of thing for the podcast and have prior guests come back in and we'll do something i don't know i don't know Jordan, no question, just wanted to give you three flowers. Aw, y'all are so diligent and consistent with all that you do. It's an honor to witness the convo for sure. Thank you, Jordan. Appreciate you too, friend. I was trying to remember, you haven't been on the podcast, have you? We need to get that set up if you haven't. as well as dj stacy bless melanated empress you're all people on my like like if i know you and i haven't reached out to you know that my brain has a strategic process uh and then it also has a oh i already mentioned to this person i should so i do both the sporadic uh invite and the hey i i want so just to give a heads up i knew i want to do mods we're in the middle of that coming to the end of doing mods i wish i could have got some more other mods said nope i i don't think i can manage to be uh on a conversation long enough to do well and i appreciate that most of the people in this chat are mod Well, I mean, mod, solo, mod. I mean, you're the mod and streamer. And Papsteel, we did talk a little bit of mod when he was just on for streamer. But God gives me an idea. So my next one is my plan is to maybe for May is I want to get internationals. I haven't focused on internationals, so I want to get some internationals on the podcast. So that'll be my plan. my thought for doing some stuff there. So those that are down under, those that are over in Asia, those that are in Europe, it might be time for me to reach out to you. So I'll get to people eventually. That's one of the things I love about this. I will never run out of friends to invite on my podcast. If I run out, how in the world is that going to happen? If I'm doing one a week for the next 10 years, that's only 52 or 50. No, is that 50? That's 500. I know more than 500 people. So we'll get there eventually. And Matthew, by the way, I just had coffee with Matthew yesterday in person, which was pretty cool.

Ooh, actual person coffee?

Yep. So I wasn't on stream yesterday. What?

Jesus. Is that you in the clouds? Wait a minute.

Oh, yes, I did. I did have coffee. That's what you meant.

Yep.

I have to drink all of my tea first, and then I can have coffee afterwards.

Wow.

I'm sorry.

It's okay. It's okay. It happens every so often. It's okay.

All right. I'm sorry.

The palpitations loose us, girl.

Oh, my goodness.

This has been so fun. This has been good. Appreciate everyone in the chat, and Jordan, for all of your questions. Appreciate those as well. Some of those are really good questions, things I haven't asked, and since I had mods, why not ask them while they're here? But again, anyone who, like you've made it to this part of the podcast or listening to it, or you're here now, my goal in this is a couple of things. One, It's to shine a spotlight on what God's already up to. This isn't to spotlight me. It's to spotlight God is already at work in Twitch, in digital spaces, and we can't stop it. So let's learn from what people are doing. Let's highlight what God is up to, and let's encourage the people that are doing it. so so thank you everybody who's been on here thank you i'm watching thank you lucis because without you a lot of what streamers do doesn't happen and uh it becomes more difficult and then there's the encouragement that you bring so i wanted to highlight mods but overall too like if someone's thinking about this and they try to go to their church or their parents and they're not sure if they're able to do it here's a podcast to listen to of some people who are doing it, and maybe God's calling you to it. So share the podcast with those people who doubt God's calling you into it so they can understand better what God is calling you into. So those are the couple of things that I really hope that this podcast becomes because I don't need a platform. I want to elevate all the people who come on that God is using them in a great and a mighty way. So that's what I'm hoping to accomplish here.

Yeah, it's good that you gave a voice to the mods because they usually like to be in the background. And sometimes you have to show what you do or at least, you know, bring out, you know, teach other people, teach other people, which I heard. What do you call Forge by Grace is going to like teach some course. And I'm like, sign me up because, you know.

seems to know a lot about uh you know doing stuff on chat that a mod could do without actually being a mod mode which i learned something today very cool nice very cool yeah oh you know what black cap no um you you know how about how about that um you did ask me something earlier and it caught me off guard i forgot something um I have something coming up. I'm going to be reading the Bible today and Sunday. So, yeah, I'm with the hopeful disasters, too. I forgot to mention that. I think that's pretty cool because this is going to teach me how to slow down and enunciate. That's going to be an experience. OK, so, yeah, that part.

When are you going to be on?

3 p.m. Eastern Standard.

OK, fantastic.

Yay! And one on Sunday. Yep.

Yeah, who knows what you'll end up reading because it's just pick up where the last person left off.

by the grace of God, we are out of judges. Thank you, God.

I'm like, please, now that is depressing. I was hoping she would have to read something about one of those weird crimes and stuff.

Girl, if I would have wound up reading about the Levite and the concubine, we would have never gotten finished. I would have waxed so poetic, like, God, I know you said free will, but God, help me. No, I'm glad we didn't.

I don't like that story either, but I do like Ehud, the left-handed guy that, you know, slays the king. And, you know, so there's some fun stories in there that I do like. But, you know, JL with the tent peg, oh, man, that's so good. But, yeah, the concubine, like, no, man. Like, the Levite is a jerk. That's all I got to say.

I can hear Strong's now, Pastor.

I can hear him.

17 different pronunciations.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, man, I'm done.

You lied and judged. You're doing sample readings and lying.

Dang, Matthew, really? I'm taking your cookies back, sir.

Oh, that was one other thing I did want to highlight there, too, is one of the things I think that mods do a wonderful job of, and I think I mentioned it, but just in a different way. So mods often are giving suggestions to streamers of something they've seen in another streamer do. So I wish like when I first got on, when I was not streaming, I had a whole lot more time to go and watch other channels and learn what people were doing. But as I've been streaming for the last five years, I spend more time streaming than I do watching. and now that i have a podcast that becomes even more true and that i game once a week it's become more true it's like i can't watch as much as i actually stream so i rely on my mods to help me understand and to see new things that people are doing and new things that are available uh like you know a bot that's out there that probably was one of my mods at one point that said hey There's SariBot. If you use SariBot, it will do all of the follower bots. It will ban them. Great. That's very helpful. So, you know, mods also serve in the eyes and ears for the streamer community to continuously learn and grow ourselves from you sharing what you see out there that other people are doing.

Yeah, I'm watching your people's good at that. She likes to give food out, randomizers to everybody. So now I'm like plugging. I'm like, hey, there's no food in this stream. Talk to my people. She's got a randomizer.

I hooked up Wabi Sabi J, ma'am. I gave him three of them.

Yeah, that was one of the places I was like saying, hey, I'm watching people. I'm talking about your ears ringing.

You have my phone. Text me, girl.

all right um uh who should we we rate out to luces i'm gonna let you uh decide if you've got someone that we should rate out to oh gee there's so many people so many people out there sure um i'm watching you people any ideas most likely yours and mine are about the same so you know

Honestly, I'm thinking of three people we both know. It's either going to be Pastor North, Wordy Girl, or Debra Ryan. So, you know.

Yeah, two of those are the same I had in mind.

Because today is Wordy Girl's birthday. That's why I thought of her. Yeah.

You know what? We should go to North Hill so that way we could tell his mods, which are quote-unquote the best mods, to actually do the podcast here and see that it's not that bad. Wait a minute.

Didn't you do one with him? I thought you did.

No, no. She's saying the mods.

Oh, gotcha.

Yes, not Pastor North, but Pastor North's pods need to come on the podcast.

Oh, yes, yes, yes. Good idea. I love that thought. I love that thought.

All right, let me get that up and started, and I'll give you a chance to any final words you want to share with anybody.

Drink your water. Your kidneys will thank you.

Keep shining your light, people. Lucius, any last thoughts?

um basically um hey if you miss me this is the only time you're gonna hear me on twitch no your loves now you can actually put a voice to the you know to the little uh name five loosers and uh you know and hopefully uh maybe i'll see you in a speech conference you know um but um i'll be around hopping around through all these different uh you know twitch places and you know try to shine my light wherever i go i look by the name of the lord in jesus christ So that's my own thing. Even though I like when watching your people says, when it says, God willing and the creek don't rise, I'll see you.

So I'm watching. You want to get it pulled up too so we can both raid together over to Pastor North? Sure.

Okay.

Are you raiding out or you want me to raid you out? No, no. We'll both double raid. So you'll raid to Pastor North and I'll raid to Pastor North. So we both show up close to the same time. So I'll get my final words and then I'll count us down to start the raid.

Got it.

Okay. I appreciate everybody who comes and spends time, and there's no better people to thank than mods. And I would love if I get some more mods on here, but this is the end of the mod takeover. We had like two and a half episodes, essentially. know what just love your mods if you're a streamer appreciate your mods i wish i wish that i had uh you know income that was coming in on a reliable basis that i could do in a better way my mods but you you make the stream work and so so thank you very much and thank you all of you who are in the chat all of you who are streamers love everybody and thank you for being here I will be on tomorrow with the Church Digital on Blessing Boat with Stacey Knapp. Sumi Beetz was her DJ name back in the day. And she's going to be talking about care and the Church Digital care. So how do you find care when you're in a digital space and you're online? So if you can hang out with Blessing Boat tomorrow, 7 p.m. Eastern time. That will be the next podcast that we'll be going. And it'll just be an hour, but you could go afterwards to a Google Meet, and I'll share that in the stream if you want to jump over there. You'll be able to go hang out in the Google.

Am I supposed to stay and share chatting?

And then do question and answer after the podcast. Anyway, thank you all. Have a blessed day. And let's rate out.

If I missed any comments, again, that anxiety tag is not for show. I have moments. I get overwhelmed, and I just needed a moment. So, again, thank you for that. I appreciate you, Pastor. I was about to call you Pastor Noah. Thank you, Flag Cap, for having me. Oh, sorry. The Church Digital. We have to be official. Thank you, Lucis, for helping me throw him under the... What? Who said that? Anyway, and thank you, everybody, for your awesome questions. Jordan, I'm going to get you. Don't put me on the spot like that. Anyway, and Stacey, ma'am. But anyway, I love y'all. God loves you. Let's get up out of here and go hang out with Pastor North, full-time pastor and a full-time nerd. Y'all know how I end the stream, but in case you're new here. This world is wild. It's going to get wilder and not in a good way. And we need to keep holding on to his unchanging hand. If you know, you know. If you don't, please holler at my man, Jesus. He is the only way to the Father anyway. Drink your water. Your kidneys will thank you. And if you're vain, hey, it keeps your skin supple. You know, clean your colon, all the things. All right. And lastly. Be good, be blessed. and be a blessing. I love y'all. God loves you infinitely more. Get to know him, holla at him, read the word, the Bible ain't boring. Let's get out of here. And if you want to hear me later trying to read the Bible, I'll be back around 3 p.m. If not here, then check me out. Oh, can you give a shout out real quick to the Hopeful Disasters? If I can't stream it, I'll be on their Discord and you will hear my voice on the Hopeful Disasters channel. So you might just want to tab them up just in case I can't stream again. Okay, so 3 p.m. for that. All right, now I'm out of here. I love y'all. I love y'all whole bunches. Let's get out of here.